Andretta Robinson, Real Estate Broker - Chicago South Suburbs (ReMax 10)

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Alex V
RE/MAX Premier Realty - Mission Viejo, CA
Real Estate Associate

Interested to know this myself. I've been with offrs for a while and have had solid results with leads there. Haven't had a SmartZip presentation but I checked out their site. Looks similar but someone mentioned that the data is all shared with SmartZip. This would be a concern for me. I bought my second territory with offrs recently and that has me wondering about data packages overall. Who has access to them. If I am buying data and it isn't mine then who else is buying it and selling in my farm? I'm not sure about other service providers but that's become something I look for in online services. SmartZip may provide it - I'm not sure but I know that offrs does. Just my two cents there.

Apr 30, 2018 08:03 AM
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Beth Dilley
Ascendia Real Estate - Sarasota, FL
Luxury and Waterfront

I am having great success with offrs.com - I don't have any experience with Smart Zip. I would suggest talking to both, and seeing how they compare.

Jan 22, 2018 04:01 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Checking out the answers. Have heard of Smart Zip but not Offrs. Not sure I have heard anything positive about Smart Zip

Apr 13, 2017 01:39 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

Talk with Sandy of Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI NMLS#1483386 

 

Apr 13, 2017 07:56 AM
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Rob Lane
Rob Lane - Vallejo, CA
I love tech.

Aug 12, 2018 07:05 AM
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Carley Metcalf
CM Group Realty - Dallas, TX

LOVE smartzip - they have been a huge success. I received no leads during the first 3 months with Offrs, and very few after that. I posted a review of my experience only to be contacted by Rich Swier, one of the owners, and was offered free data if I removed my review. I accepted his offer and removed my review. Please see my recent conversation with Rich below. . . 

Hi Rich,

Territory 48085031613 is no longer active on my account and was supposed to remain active until December 17. I have been receiving leads from territories that are nearly an hour north of my target areas. I have received one verified lead within my territory since August 12th and they expressed to me that multiple agents have called them regarding the Facebook survey they completed. I would not be surprised if my leads are being sent to other agents seeing as other agents verified leads have been sent to me. 

Is this the standard process for client retention? Sending leads from random territories to agents that have not found success with the program? 

Carley,

I activated again, and changed to December.   Any lead outside your area would be an orphan lead.  Leads in your area when licensing exclusive are exclusive. You have access to the area but not an actively paying user.

We don't typically provide our service at no cost. I kept it open for you to access. Technically I shut off leads I believe a while ago, since it's completely based on the ad budget in your account (which is zero). So the leads you are getting are from a shared pool.

Rich,

The shared pool was never explained to me. The contract I signed was exclusive access to the data and leads in my territory. I do not care to share leads in territories outside of the ones I signed up for. The reason I agreed to remove my review was so that my territories would remain active for the “rest of the time” – I have had to reach out to you twice due to my territories not being active.

You may remove me from all unpaid services with Offrs. I do not wish to carry out my unpaid contracts and I am definitely going to reflect this, along with my entire experience with Offrs in a review as I do not want other agents to deal with the headaches I have had to endure during my experiences with your company.

Carley,

If you insist on posting a negative review of us due to these issues (that are un founded and only due to your misunderstanding of the product) - then I will do the same and post negative reviews of you as a customer, post proof of service of delivery of our product and these emails, and showcase you are not a good realtor. Thus saving your future customers from hiring you, since you are unable to understand how to convert leads.

Or - we can go our seperate ways and not damage each others reputations on the web

Rich,

My reviews have been completely honest and transparent, if you view that as negative, then maybe you should take a deeper look inside your company rather than deflecting back onto me, the customer. You have a "shared pool" of leads which means other agents are experiencing the same things as I am and your only way to rectify the situation is to throw us into a "shared pool" of leads. 

If you usually post negative reviews of customers that are dissatisfied with your product then go ahead, but please be aware that under Texas law If you proceed to post any negative review of me online as a realtor with no evidence to support that claim it would be considered slander and defamation

Carley,

I am amazed how your threaten me and my business, and disregard any attempt of mine to help you at no cost.  I will post more negative reviews than you can ever imaging about my experience with you as a customer. They will be legitimate and I will post our entire conversations, what I did you for, all the leads and screenshots. Nothing about it will be slander or defamation. And when people search your name, it will be #1 on Google.

Oct 10, 2017 12:12 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Andretta,

I came back to read the commentary.  I truly wish that real estate was a magician's paradise.  We have worked with some of the highest producers in real estate, around the US and not one I know usess either program.  It is all about getting to know people, being visible, and practice the fundamentals.   I would suggest that you read Barbara Todaro 's latest post, as well as subscribe to her blog.  A

 

Apr 13, 2017 05:08 PM
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Andretta Robinson
ReMax 10 - Matteson, IL
Real Estate Broker - Chicago South Suburbs

THANKS everyone, heard a smart zip presentation today, it is pricey. They are full service, offering postcards, hand written letters and socialmedia, something we can do our own. THEY SAY  their are magicians, just kidding.

Apr 13, 2017 04:10 PM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

 It is a local re marketing firm promise a lot.... I hang up when they called a few years ago.

This is what I hear from internally:

Engineering - product is super buggy. "That's all people ever talk about. When will we fix a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, and so on and so forth until you finally think that one thing is fixed, before realizing they didn't fix it at all, and instead created a complex work-around solution to the problem tha… 

Apr 13, 2017 12:59 PM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate Agent Retired

Smart Zip is prediction advertising if you will. They look at info & give you the best addresses of those that are going to move soon. A little pricey. Some have had luck, some not so.

Apr 13, 2017 09:48 AM
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Julie Larson Realtor® Sarasota FL 941-882-0322
PalmerHouse Properties Florida - 941-882-0322 | Serving Sarasota, Manatee & Charlotte Counties - Sarasota, FL
When you're thinking of moving...ThinkSuncoast.com

No, but I do know that Offrs is based right here in Sarasota!   

Apr 13, 2017 08:15 AM
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Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

No, I don't, sorry.

Apr 13, 2017 08:05 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

sorry, no....

Apr 13, 2017 08:00 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Nary a clue!

Apr 13, 2017 07:57 AM
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Danny Margagliano
World Impact Real Estate - Santa Rosa Beach, FL
Danny "Wheels"

I have used Smart zip.  They required a one-year contract which I did not like.  I love their model in theory but in reality, it was too much for the return on investment.  I was paying around $500 per month.  I did get to listings from them.  They were both very low-end properties around 250K each.  The problem is that if I got one less listing I would've barely broken even.  So at the end of the day, it was a 2x  return.  I need more than that on my marketing.

  It's funny because I just got a call from Offrs today but I missed it because I was on the other line.

Jun 25, 2018 02:04 PM
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Dave Martin (703) 585-4687
Fairfax Realty - Fairfax, VA
Making Realty Dreams a Reality #WeWillGetYouHome

Smart Zip is prediction advertising if you will. They look at info & give you the best addresses of those that are going to move soon

Mar 25, 2018 05:39 PM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Have not heard of them.

Apr 15, 2017 04:06 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Never heard of the second, barely know the first exists.  Sorry I can't be of any more help.  The first doesn't fit my business model.

Apr 14, 2017 02:14 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I do not, looking for answers.

Apr 14, 2017 06:09 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Jeff Dowler nailed this one!

Apr 14, 2017 05:00 AM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Andretta Robinson - I don't know the difference but I can say similarity.

Both of them are out to take your money. Simple.

Apr 13, 2017 11:13 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
& Host of Postcards From Success Podcast

I'm parked and ready to learn.

Apr 13, 2017 09:04 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Never heard of it

Apr 13, 2017 08:14 PM
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Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

 I just know that they are very expensive...

Apr 13, 2017 06:33 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I have listened to the SmartZip presentation and they make it sound like the answer to every agents lead generation problem. The price was too high for me plus I have heard others say it didn't work. I do not know anything about Offrs.

Apr 13, 2017 06:15 PM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Looking at answers

Apr 13, 2017 05:10 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I heard of Smart Zip but never used it. You can do the same yourself, or you can pay them for pulling ''possible'' leads. 

Apr 13, 2017 05:06 PM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

Reading replies.  I have no clue.

Apr 13, 2017 04:26 PM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

 Both cost major $$$$.   

Apr 13, 2017 04:13 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

I know what an Offer is.

Apr 13, 2017 02:16 PM
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FN LN
Toronto, ON

Some members of the forum have provided some great answers.

Apr 13, 2017 01:55 PM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West - Carlsbad, CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Lots of information and both are cutting edge companies

Apr 13, 2017 01:44 PM
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

Smart Zip is okay if the Zip Code correlates well with a specific geographic niche although its results can be duplicated on your own with a little bit of effort. I found it to be not cost effective for my market. Offrs is a new one I'll have to do some research on. 

Apr 13, 2017 01:29 PM
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Noel Mayer
Upper Montclair Weichert Realtors - Montclair, NJ
YOU WILL BE RIGHT AT HOME WITH NOEL

I stopped by to find out.

Apr 13, 2017 01:17 PM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

not familiar - so No, I don't, sorry.

Apr 13, 2017 12:56 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Havn't known of the second one.

Apr 13, 2017 12:34 PM
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Bob Force (REALTOR®)
Weichert Realtors - Aspen Hill - Mount Airy, MD
The FORCE in Maryland Real Estate

I want to be a smart ass and say yes, somebody does.  I will be watching the answeres to learn myself.

Apr 13, 2017 12:05 PM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Sorry never heard of either one.

Apr 13, 2017 11:39 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Not quite sure what you are asking.

Apr 13, 2017 11:30 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia III
RentVest - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

not here

Apr 13, 2017 09:13 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Nope.

Apr 13, 2017 08:16 AM