4,774,232
I have not heard this particular request but it certainly would be followed by a conversation with the wannabe seller if this issue ever "pops up".
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
5,521,873
Yes, all of the time. They don't want their home accessible when they are not home, without their knowledge or during the night.
Sometimes they do that if they have lever handles, where the lockboxes won't 'hang' without falling off.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
5,363,534
I have indeed had sellers ask for no box whatsoever... and as far as I'm concerned, it's all about the seller and not about me. I do have them sign something that says I've recommended a secure lock box, discussed security with them and that it was their decision not to follow my recommendation. That way, if anything happens they can't come back at me. The good news is that the few times this has happened we never had a single security issue.
As for not "attaching" a box... I see that all the time on houses I show. And again have had no issues when I've had to do that at a client's home where there is no logical place to hang a box.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
5,533,886
Not on the door, somewhere close! Never unsecured!
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Teri Pacitto
Westlake Village, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,327,560
Sure many times, I have been able to get them to allow me to put the keybox somewhere else out of site. Howver, if the home is occupied I always attend any showings since many features can be missed by another agent.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
8,208,704
Nope. They need to be well prepared.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,189,254
No, I explain to them that the electronic lockboxes I use cannot be taken off or opened without special codes and that they also only open during specific times so they don't have to worry about entering anyone outside those times.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
5,158,562
I have not; however, their request does not surprise me.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,713,581
Whn I listed properties I would have turned down the listing on those conditions. Normally you can explain security to an owner.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
667,532
I have not personally , but know others who have
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,602,701
No, I haven't. I would be worried about someone stealing the lockbox.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,231,519
I have not Paul.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
5,585,039
that's absurd....and no, have never been asked that.... my answer would be "that's not happening"
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
1,304,148
Some folks hav strange requests, but yes, I had a similar situatin
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
3,627,477
While I've had them ask to not have the lockbox on the door, I've never ran into that situation before
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
953,004
Actually it makes no sense... they can just leave the door open...
leaving the key box unattached does not make sense
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
935,688
Yes. Apparently they've experienced agents not following showing instructions in the past.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Teri Pacitto
Westlake Village, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
1,472,185
The high majority of my clients do not want a lockbox. It is all about what works for my clients, not me. If we do proceed with a lockbox, it will not be on their front door, but in a secure, out of sight location.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Teri Pacitto
Westlake Village, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
5,774,106
PAUL,
We are all different in our thinking, and security these days is important. On the luxury end, the listing agent attends the showing...too many valuables around to pocket. A
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Teri Pacitto
Westlake Village, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
3,441,290
Yes, I have. No issues with the seller controlling the lockbox.
See Debe Maxwell, CRS comment.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,756,542
Often not on the door, but at least on the hose bibb. These sellers seem paranoid.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,108,478
LB tethered to nothing? No!
Smarter way:
LB hidden, around the back of the house somewhere where visibility is not noticeable from the street or the front of the house.
When it is your appointment time we will reveal the location of the lock box.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
469,625
It's not the norm here but it does happen for those sellers that are worried about agents not following the showing instructions.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,598,552
Supra will be better solution.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
6,741,941
I avoid putting them on the door because they scuff up the door and the hands.
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,298,375
Security is not an issue in the 4th lowest crime state where our northern area is half that pretty impressive state average for now crime. Keys, locked doors... interesting concept. You might see a sign that says "Insured by Smith & Wesson" or "I own a gun and a back hoe". You fill in the blanks on what happens if you mess with their property. We are brought up to respect other peoples property... they do the same to others around them.
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Sondra Meyer:
Corpus Christi, TX
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
3,219,527
I have no issue with that on occupied homes at all. It's what I would do if my house were listed.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
4,397,716
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS I have not, however home sellers always make usual demands.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,467,734
It is not an uncommon request.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
5,192,589
It's not been an issue for me but I show homes occasionally where the lock box has to be put out by the seller.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,873,448
It doesn't seem secure to me. What if the agent is late & the thing is just sitting there in a potted plant?
If the people want to feel secure only give key for one lock so they stop thinking that some agent will show their house at 3am or something else ridiculous.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
2,863,921
It is not surprising what comes out of anyone any more...
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
559,836
A lockbox on the front door is a real pain the the a$$ for the occupants. It gets caught up when they try to shut the door and they have to watch as it destroys the weather stripping in the process.
Buy some 3 foot long zip ties and fasten the lockbox to a railing, post or any other part of the house.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,272,429
Have not had that happen to me.
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
782,475
I really prefer it on the door myself but sometimes it doesn't close when there's a storm door. also some door handles aren't designed to securely hold the Box. I haven't had anyone put it out and take it in after showings. I don't think the box is all that secure on the door or not
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
3,417,356
Yes and it did not make much sense. After they forgot once, i got my lock box installed.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
3,290,559
Strange request. If the home is occupied, we discuss whether to place a box on-site (on a hose bib or gate) but having one unsecured may not be a good idea.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
379,254
Paul, this makes perfect sense when security is an issue as long as seller attaches box to pre-determined location consistent with showing instructions. Lockboxes (not bluetooth boxes) and yardsigns are advertisements to thugs that the key is here to break in. I stopped using yard signs after a break-in and theft. A potential break-in was thwarted on another property when thugs smashed lock box off the door in vain only to find it empty while we waited for key from bank. What if you disagree with them and the unthinkable is the result?
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
3,679,781
Not happening! Period.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,153,799
During 99% of the time I will accompany therfore this subject very rarely comes up.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,266,993
customer is always right.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,544,354
Yes. I've had a "seller controls lockbox" listing before. It was usually because the person worked nights or graveyard at a hospital. It was explained to them the benefits of having a keysafe accessible and we worked it out so I had a schedule of when it would be out and could send agents then. It also meant open houses were more useful, when they could be scheduled.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
768,323
We do have clients who request this - and I agree with you that someone could steal the lockbox (and the key) with this scenario. But no one has (to date).
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
944,170
No. Not that they would put it out on the porch. I have seen where sellers want to be there to let people in then leave. I've also had a couple situations where we change the lockbox when it goes under contract so past agents who showed the house no longer had the lockbox code. I had one seller who swore someone came in her house after contract and without approval. We now have Sentrilock and that is more secure.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
877,736
I've had sellers who are comfortable just leaving the door unlocked so there is no lockbox required at all.
Now just recently I've had an agent ask that the key be pulled from the lockbox because her phone doesn't support the supra app....
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
6,040,487
927,035
I've seen lockboxes attached to very strange things, some not always easy to find; doors don't always work.
2,547,675
Even if it only makes sense to them I'd do it but I'd have them sign a waver that would absolve me of any responsibility if something should go wrong in this sincere Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
2,071,140
536,943
No I have not had this happen. Sounds as if they have had a security issue before.
921,504
Of course.
It matters not that the request seems illogical, it is real to them.
I would go a step further to ease they mind and suggest NO BOX at all.
After all, being a full service agent I will be present to insure the features of the home are exhibited in the best context means I will be present for all showings.
So, what exactly is the problem?