1,100,809
1. Sign your buyer to an exclusive, you're going to do a lot of work and off-market means you will negotiate your fee, possibly be denied compensation by the owner.
2. Has your buyer told you what kind of yield that they are looking for? That's the first question, and will help you identify properties. It will also tell you if your buyer knows what they're doing. If their target yield doesn't match up with rates of return in the area, it's a unicorn.
3. Identify market rents in an area, which will help you get a pulse on building class.
4. In your target area, look for properties that have been owned for 5 to 10 years, those owners are ready to sell.
This article has more good points.
https://joefairless.com/unique-way-find-off-market-apartment-deals/
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Inna Ivchenko
Encino, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Kat Palmiotti
Kalispell, MT
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,737,169
Hmm. How well do you know this "client"? If not well the story has a "needle in the haystack" aspect to it. Good luck. Hey, I would like to taller, richer and a lot more attractive too. Would you mind working on that? Good luck. Sincerely. Mean it.
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Lisa Friedman
Essex, VT
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,291,732
Long shot, too broad an area, they need to pay you an upfront fee for that amount of work.
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Peter Mohylsky,
Miramar Beach, FL
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
3,416,372
You need to narrow down that location. Here in NH we have a flood of investors, especially from MA, DT and NY. They love our low prices compared to their own and the rents are just as high
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
5,114,065
East of the Mississippi is a pretty large area. First thing try to get them to narrow the location a bit.
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
8,149,414
You may wish to explore some more productive activities.
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
5,486,412
I suppose check for apartment building owners who are behind on taxes, or in pre-foreclosure.
I understand you're looking to refer the client out to agents who may have something that fits this criteria and I can take a look for you here in Charlotte.
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
777,875
I wouldn't be too happy about that lead but if you are going to work it make some calls. See if you can get a listing out of it. If it's a match for the buyer then it's a win-win.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
5,310,779
This kind of purchase is not in my wheelhouse. It's something I'd refer to a broker who specializes in that kind of property... they often have their ear close to the ground on what is happening or about to come on market. I wonder how many "distressed" owners there are these days given what rents are and how they seem to be escalating. East of the Mississippi is an awfully big area... you really need to narrow down criteria, locations, etc.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
932,948
You might be able to check and see who is behind on taxes. Sounds like a lot of time could be wasted anyway you go about it.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
3,430,007
You have some good comments here. I don't have much to add yet I will share my thoughts when reading this.
Can you find me the winning lottery tickets and the winning lottery numbers?
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
414,084
Yeah, so does every over investor on the planet. But we can't manufacture desperate people with great properties for cheap.
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
2,323,701
Isnt' that what everyone wants? Every buyer I ever had would have loved to buy a well cared for property from "distressed owners" needing to sell quickly and, therefore, at a bargain price. They want it off-market so there is no bidding competition.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
469,575
If all that this client gave you for their buying parameters is that they are looking for distressed sellers with great properties and that the properties be off market, then they and whoever helps them are in trouble. Those aren't really very helpful "buy" criteria for an investment property. For example, Will they buy if you take the time to find them an off market apartment building owner that's in the middle of divorce, a mother in law in the guest room (for 4 years now), has a parent in the hospital with dimentia, has pregnant 17 year old daughter, a crack smoking son with gender identity issues and that wants double the market value for the great apartment building they own that's not on the market?? I was being ridiculous but I think you get what I mean. Get some parameters that mean something. What are the guys "buy" criteria? He wants a deal - what is a deal to him/her? CAP Rate, Cash on Cash Return, Cash flow, ROI - something.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
2,520,681
Shanna Day Team Leader AZ & UT - Call 480-415-7616 my only thought is that in your advertising to advertise "Thinking about Selling your 4 plex (or what ever) but have not listed it yet".
BTW I like your new profile pic, very 3 dimensional looking.
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
921,504
Your buyer is jerking your chain. Don't be the chump. Those words are exactly what every 'wanna-be' investor says. Real investors will have delimiters like location, Section 8, price range, size and age.
So use this opportunity to develop resources in this market place if you believe this is for you.
Buy into loopnet, join some REIT forums, educate yourself on how commercial deals are actually done. Know what the attorneys do and understand your role. That will make your messaging easier.
Now, pay up for a few of those 'get rich quick in real estate and risk none of your own money'' seminars and start making list of those who are also having their chains jerked. When you see what others are doing, it will prove beneficial in directing where and what you spend your time and treasure.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Dan & Laurie Pittsenba...
Bellingham, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,230,207
You have many great answers here Shanna. Good luck
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
6,685,588
Often distressed owners have distressed properties, and they are generally over priced.
Follow the advice Canice offers before stepping into this one.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
1,258,649
Look for absentee owners of multi-unit bldgs in the States they want to invest in
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
2,848,056
This is also known as a steal or a deal...Check the income/expense plus condition and assess to see if it is worth keeping to the current owner. Check taxes and mortgage data and interview tenants at potential sites. They know
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
5,584,639
it's much easier to focus on listing property....
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
424,263
Get him to sign exclusive agreement
Ask title rep to pull delinquent tax rolls on properties in areas he targets.
Cross reference list with google search by name - get address.
Address might be a crummy management company who is not keeping up paying the taxes but won't want to give you the client contact
Send letter to other management companies and a few CPA's in target area to fish a big pond.
East of the Mississippi is tooooo broad a statement.
get more details-
number of units, demographics of city, location, high rise, how many stories, how old... make him write out the wish list
loop net - sign up
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
1,650,236
Yes, they want the property with equity and sellers who are willing to sell that property with a discount because they can not pay their loans or need money fast. Checking NOD is probably the first step.
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,870,453
Not the correct forum.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,288,415
Timing is everything. Good luck.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
557,136
That is a long way to drive to show a property that isn't for sale, the owner cannot afford to pay you, and distressed usually means in default which then involves a lender in the sale. Sometimes, NEXT is the best answer.
You could always refer him out, but finding an agent who covers the 20 some states in question might be a challenge.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
5,774,095
I am on the Michael Jacobs bandwagon..A
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,442,553
I would find an agent east of Mississippi and see if they want to work on a referral for me.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
6,002,794
5,481,776
You have to narow the scope of your search or you will search forever without positive results. Time is money.
Have them pick 2 or 3 geographical areas. Minimum size, maximum size. Price per unit limit. Yield requirements????
Cash out, assumption of debt, or owner financing?
Get the answers and then decide if it is worth the effort or you should refer them!