

1,804,091
well I would vote it down. I think there is no good reason other than they don't believe IC's pay their taxes.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
4,430,694
This seems to be a never-ending discussion.
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,131,374
You know Lynnea Miller
This topic resurfaces from time to time. It's always a scheme for the Legislatures to get deeper into Hip National Bank (our pockets)
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
4,824,159
I haven't heard much here... but it will be a tough one to sell. Oregon just can't seem to stop... first the rent control laws, then the drivering license laws, now this...
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Debra Leisek
Homer, AK
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Joyce Marsh
Ormond Beach, FL
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
988,628
No, but it doesn't surprise me that your state is.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
5,582,174
I think they've been attempting this in MA for years.... not happening!!!
it would change our industry completely.....
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
4,601,761
Nope
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
6,049,132
What kind of hippies do you have running that state?
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debra Leisek
Homer, AK
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,213,123
Have not heard Lynnea
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
3,236,361
Yes. I live in a state of movements, that would be California, also known as, The Land of Oz!
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,162,727
Making agents employees would heavily impact the real estate brokerage business model and all those that work within it.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
4,861,354
OMG, Lynnea! What is going on in Oregon?
You know, I think you'll have a lot of independent agents who operate on their own, under their own business license. A FAR worse scenario for buyers & sellers. There's no one to hold a lot of the independents accountable that we have now. I can't imagine a state full of them!
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
1,696,498
Looks like the Oregon Socialist Republic is short on funds?
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debra Leisek
Homer, AK
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
1,465,492
This has been going through the courts in CA for a while now. Technically, we do not pass the federal tests. The main test we fail is operating without oversight... which in CA a Broker is required by law to supervise their agents.
My thoughts on this are as follows:
- It will likely come to pass as the states and federal government want to make sure everyone is taxed.
- Brokerages will need to layoff the majority of their workforce, because most are not capable of producing enough business to justify the cost of carrying them (insurance, taxes, HR, admin, salary, benefits,...)
- Brokers will still be allowed to be independent contractors because we are the only ones (in CA) legally allowed to list and sell properties on our own.
- There will be an increase in people with Brokers licenses and independent companies.
- Teams and agents with buyers agents, etc. will get a rude wake-up call
- Eventually most (80-90%) of agents will be forced out of the business and the independent and agents that produce at least $60k/yr in commissions to the BROKER will be the only ones left.
This will also have an impact on new agents as they don't have a track record and who will want to take them on, unless in an apprenticeship role?
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Mel Ahrens, MBA, Kelly...
Hood River, OR
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
509,119
I have not but that will be a major change for any brokerage.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
2,730,376
If the employer controls your coming and going, you are an employee
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,923,066
Lynnea Miller occasionally, I hear this kind of discussion.
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
7,413,035
Nope.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
3,128,184
have heard nothing. Going to call my state representative soon.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
5,771,198
Lynnea,
Not surprised, there is always a tax reason involved. More money equals more wasteful spending and so it goes...A
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Doug Dawes
Georgetown, MA
838,167
the federal government recognizes independent contractors as valid
not sure how a state can change that just to get workmens comp insurance
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,710,215
921,354
If brokers actually did their job, this would be a non-issue.
Such a loss of IC status would create great disruption in the real estate brokerage business model.
Making them PAY would compel brokerages to look after their investment. One would be extremely limited in their thinking to believe the only compensation model available for brokers is hourly.
But, this is what happens when we don't build that wall. The crazies leave California and take their craziness to Oregon.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
4,143,867
As in Oregon we walk in the shadows of California and when they do something we are right behind...
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
2,226,228
I'm not hearing anything along those lines here in ND Lynnea Miller .
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
4,799,935
Not as of yet. I doubt it will ever happen in Florida.
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
544,981
NC now charges a sales tax on service labor. They tried to include us agents commission but that part failed, for now. Sellers would have had to pay a sales tax on our commission.
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
3,411,971
Yes here in NH too and for the same reasons. They masdate that an IC can not be given a schedule, work can not be mandatory outside the scope. This is what happens when voters vote without knowing who they are voting for. You get more regulation and more taxes. All that hurt the people that work the hardest
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
4,876,012
Too many people from California moving to Oregon and running for office!
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Lynnea Miller
Bend, OR
4,631,566
1,212,469