

1,803,231
I'm not sure I'd continue to work with this lender. I thought that the buyer provided those & then immediately (if not faster) the transcripts were asked for. I think that the LO gets an epic fail.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Ricardo Mello
Manhattan, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,428,329
Likely time for a different lender.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,159,212
Your lender made the assumption that the tax returns provided by the buyer were actually filed. I think many lenders would make the same mistake. Too bad!
Taking the package to a new lender will probably cost even more time. Ask for an extension for close of escrow, if possible. Get the job done. Let's remember that the problem was really caused by the buyers. Evaluate your relationship with the lender after the dust has settled, if it is a lender that you typically use. Otherwise, move on.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
987,344
What a dang mess. Have we had lenders pull nonsense like this? Yeah, in the past. It's what we call TP PQs.
And if the lender had properly vetted the buyers, they would have noticed that those taxes hadn't been filed.
Hopefully you can get an extension so that you can close it. If the lender can do it. I could certainly understand zero confidence in the lender at this point.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
5,582,174
go to another lender.... sooner rather than later....
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Ricardo Mello
Manhattan, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
106,731
You can have them file at your local IRS field office, have them stamped as received and you should be able to proceed. Loan officers do not make it a practice of verifying that a consumer has filed their taxes up front other than by asking the borrower up front and getting copies of their 1040s and all schedules. If the borrower screwed up, it's unfortunate, but not a preventable problem from a loan officer's perspective. The problem will be calculating the penalty for late filing and interest. The lending underwriter will want to make certain that the outstanding liability has been paid...
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SHELBY CHAPIN
Canyon Lake, TX
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,235,021
I've had many not desirable things happen with various lenders. It is why getting underwriting approval up front helps to uncover issues like these that come up at the 11th hour.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,598,380
I am sure, you will get another lender.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,070,097
Agree, need another lander ASAP.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,845,059
Yes, Erika Rae Albert, Austin Real Estate Expert - Self-employed individuals can use what is referred to here as a Check-Book Loan. They do, indeed, check that your taxes are filed but, they operate off of INCOME and not what self-employed individuals are known for, lower income shown on their tax returns. We tend to take tons of deductions in order to pay lower taxes!
It's a valid program for those (self-employed) who want to buy before they sell and then refinance 6 months later. The check-book income loans are similar to a hard-money loan. Last I checked (in November), the rate was 7%. HOWEVER, if your lender forgot to obtain those documents, that's a whole other story!
Your folks can visit the local IRS office and obtain those documents. I've actually done that for a buyer myself before! You can salvage this deal!
Good luck!
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
6,041,912
Well at least the lender helped them to find out that they had not really filed their taxes.
Hopefully they will get this sorted out and back on track quickly.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
28,321
Erika - no lender will close a " normal " loan for a self-employed individual without transcripts ..if returns werent filed correctly - borrowers should walk the returns into the local office and ask for help with getting transripts
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,867,222
That is the last "oops" from that lender regarding anyone I would work with. Next lender!
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,464,887
Wow. That I haven't heard of, but I'm not surprised the way things are going with easing the standards these days.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,729,456
This smells of the famous "carrot" that one cannot obtain but beckons
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,211,853
I will hold off these requests until it is ready to go. Perhaps a waste of time.
It only happened to me once from BoA lender. He apologized later. But it suck.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
267,857
go to another lender, preferrably one you work with and can get it done fast
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
1,710,215
Maybe you and your buyer do not understand the different between pre-qualification subject to discovery instead or pre-approval where are documents required have been viewed by underwriting. It also could be a bad lender agreed but this should be a simple resolution by oriduycing the tax returns.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
191,889
I did NOT recommend the lender.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
4,596,379
Did you recomment the lender or were they selected by the buyer?
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
4,815,237
That is a lender that needs to be dropped asap.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
2,644,397
That is totally unacceptable.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,799,935
I have heard about some doing this.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
3,411,821
Yes, unfortanately many qualify with what the buyer submits, the official transcripts can be checked right before closing. In the past, not at all and look where that got them?
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
4,433,865
No.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
155,036
I guess the question is, "did the approval letter come from the actual lender (as in underwriting) or the loan officer?" Definately find out who dropped the ball.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
2,223,184
I don't believe so Erika Rae Albert, Austin Real Estate Expert .
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
73,729
Time to look for another lender Erika!
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
733,129
Sounds like this lender throws it all at the wall & whatever sticks sticks. Bad for business.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
1,590,410
It used to be a stated loan.
p.s. Also... I get an update every two days from my lender and my escrow also follows with them twice/week. So, we usually know what exactly going on long before any issues....
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
7,402,544
Move on to another loan officer.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
4,882,343
Sounds like this lender goofed and what happened in not acceptable. Hopefully you can get an extension on closing.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
5,771,198
Erika,
No, and find another lender. A
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
3,846
Absolutely and twice on Sunday! What we do is that we submit all Pre-Quals specially the Non-QM deals with difficult self-employed taxes before and actual Underwriter, even on a TBD property, and have the Underwriter sign off Income, Credit, & Assets. When this is done we hand the actual loan approval to the Realtor and it makes for an easy closing as all we need is to sign off the particulars of the actual property.
4,623,361
5,635,244
4,325,507
Ugh, I would be more than frustrated with this lender and would certainly not refer anyone to them in the future.
874,347
Sounds a little bogus to me... on all sides. Frustrating for you, sorry.
1,045,315