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Rainmaker
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West - Carlsbad, CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

EPA is just using these folks as 'Poster Children'.  Too bad our Fed Gov doesn't have better things to do with our money. Wonder how much it cost the EPA to investigate and prosecute this case?

Jun 11, 2018 05:32 AM
Rainmaker
913,530
David Popoff
DMK Real Estate - Darien, CT
Realtor®,SRS, Green ~ Fairfield County, Ct

Yup saw it, all contractors need to work safely with lead paint.

Chip and Joanna Gaines Fined $40,000 by the EPA for Breaking Lead Paint Rules During Fixer Upper…

 

I wonder what other DIY flippers will be next.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/chip-and-joanna-gaines-fined-dollar40000-by-the-epa-for-breaking-lead-paint-rules-during-fixer-upper/ar-AAyh2Eu?ocid=st

Jun 11, 2018 05:37 AM
Rainmaker
4,179,975
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Wow! I had not as I don't watch these shows so have no clue who's fixing what.

Jun 11, 2018 04:54 AM
Rainmaker
893,877
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

When business's close doors without notice, be it flippers or restaurants, litigation is usually involved.

Coming in a close second is threat of boycotts. 

It is a tough situation and hostile environment for business owners of all types.

Jun 11, 2018 05:17 AM
Rainer
365,478
Andy Brown-Climer School of Real Estate
The Climer School of Real Estate - Orlando, FL
The Best Real Estate School in Florida

Wow! $200,000 total. 

Jun 11, 2018 04:51 AM
Rainmaker
1,707,423
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

I did.

Jun 11, 2018 04:46 AM
Rainmaker
1,730,525
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate Agent Retired

Could be as they've never given a definative reason why they are leaving other than to spread out in other directions.

I guess they are taking things seriously & I'm really surprised that they are even bothering.

Jun 11, 2018 04:25 AM
Rainmaker
4,141,578
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Wasn't aware of this "news".

Jun 11, 2018 05:41 AM
Rainmaker
4,268,184
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Did not know, but always wondered about it since most of their projects were homes built before 1978! They got caught!

Jun 11, 2018 05:26 AM
Rainmaker
3,070,134
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Interesting

Jun 11, 2018 04:12 AM
Rainer
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Anthony Kirlew
Group 46:10 Network @ eXp Realty - Gilbert, AZ
Helping You Make Fiscally Sound Choices

They seem to be genuine people. I beleive they are ending the show because they are having another baby. Often times those who hold conservative Christian values are targeted; this may be such a case.

Jun 11, 2018 07:49 AM
Rainmaker
564,402
Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

I did see this - lead paint got them.

Jun 11, 2018 06:40 AM
Rainmaker
612,066
Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Orlando, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Orlando Home Buyers

The fine is not big enough...

Who cares if they are gone?

Good riddance...

Eve

Jun 11, 2018 06:02 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The right Charlotte REALTOR!

I've run into flippers here who do not want to take the time or expense to remove both LBP and asbestos properly.

Hopefully this is a wake-up call for them ALL - the cost of proper removal is far less than the fines they'll pay if not (and they're caught)!

Jun 11, 2018 05:57 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

I thought that that grifter from Oklahoma had put the EPA out of business.

Jun 11, 2018 08:17 AM
Rainmaker
527,095
Dave Halpern
Keller Williams Realty Louisville East (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

When you're rehabbing a property in 22 minutes plus commercials there's no time for LBP rules.

Jun 11, 2018 08:02 AM
Rainmaker
903,887
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

I will never understand why someone in such a position with plenty of resources and money would do something that risky, when doing it right the first time would have saved them 6 figures and maybe their show.
OTOH . . . why was the EPA singling them out.

Rhetorical -- low hangin' fruit.

Jun 11, 2018 07:31 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

Yes, saw that.  The announcement to end the show was long before that came out, though. 

Jun 11, 2018 07:11 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667, kat@thehousekat.com, Broker, eXp Realty - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I didn't see this, but the small fine and video they make should help highlight the still existing issues that exist with lead paint.

Jun 11, 2018 07:10 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

I did not know about this.  I do not watch those shows.  I agree with Debe Maxwell, CRS - do it right and do not take the risk of not getting caught. In the long run, it costs less than the consequences of paying fines ...and other fallout from not doing the right thing. 

Jun 11, 2018 07:07 AM
Rainmaker
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Sam Miller
RE/MAX Stars Realty - Howard, OH
Knox County Ohio Real Estate Specialist

Buzz, I didn't see the announcement but now that it has happened I would bet a lot of other flippers are going to take notice.

Jun 11, 2018 06:50 AM
Rainmaker
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

I saw that.  Chump change for them.

Jun 11, 2018 06:34 AM
Rainmaker
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Gloria Valvasori, Accredited Senior Agent
BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS REAL ESTATE SIGNATURE SERVICE - Mississauga, ON
REAL Experience | REAL Commitment | REAL Results!

Glad to hear they were shut down...I wouldn't want my children or family members living in a house with lead paint and the government was right to after them.  

Jun 11, 2018 05:56 AM
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Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

Thank you for pointing this one out Buzz....

Jun 11, 2018 11:23 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Buzz Mackintosh thanks for sharing. I had no idea about this.

Jun 11, 2018 10:24 PM
Rainmaker
928,591
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

And do you really think that they are the only flippers who take shortcuts?

Jun 11, 2018 07:50 PM
Rainmaker
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

I did not Buzz, I will check it out now.

Jun 11, 2018 05:32 PM
Rainmaker
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I wonder if they were targeted by.

Jun 11, 2018 05:14 PM
Rainmaker
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Tony Lewis
Summit Real Estate Group - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Group Valencia & Aliso Viejo

No, too bad it happened.

Jun 11, 2018 03:18 PM
Rainmaker
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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester

No, and just a case of government being nosy. 

Jun 11, 2018 09:39 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     A lot of people watch these scripted shows, then lose money buying banged-up houses, thinking they can "flip them" for a huge profit.  They did not realize the cost of removing lead paint, polybutylene pipe, LP siding, asbestos, and other hazards.   Plus the expense of bringing the flip house up to current building code.

Jun 11, 2018 09:00 AM
Rainmaker
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Marco Giancola
Beachfront Realty - Miami Beach, FL
Realtor (305)608-1922, Miami Beach Florida

I did see that. Very surprised , I thought the "new" EPA was pro-pollution!

Jun 11, 2018 08:59 AM
Rainmaker
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Chuck Willman UtahHomes.me
Utah Homes - Alpine, UT
Utah Homes

1) I'm not against the agencies enforcing rules.

2) It does seem like this could be a bit of a publicity move for the EPA in which they can get some added fame from their activities.

Jun 11, 2018 08:45 AM
Rainmaker
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I haven't seen this.  That's why TV shows are a risky thing, but let's face it a 40k fine is nothing compared to the money they make off of their product lines.

Jun 11, 2018 08:32 AM
Rainmaker
1,255,228
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
& Host of Postcards From Success Podcast

HGTV is a shell of what it used to be.

Jun 11, 2018 07:51 AM
Rainmaker
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I didn't, thanks for the info.

Jun 11, 2018 07:48 AM
Rainmaker
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Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

I don't watch HGTV but I did see this in my Google news feed. -K

Jun 11, 2018 07:27 AM
Ambassador
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Wasn't aware of this

Jun 11, 2018 07:19 AM
Rainmaker
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Nope.

Jun 11, 2018 07:10 AM
Rainer
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J.R. Schloemer, CRS
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

Interesting little bit of information to start the day.

Jun 11, 2018 07:03 AM
Rainmaker
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

No, we don't watch HGTV

Jun 11, 2018 06:48 AM
Rainmaker
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

No idea.

Jun 11, 2018 03:50 AM
Rainmaker
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I did not hear this, thought they cut back due to having another baby, and think they opened a restaurant too.

Jun 15, 2018 09:18 AM
Rainer
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Jeff Perlis Prime Properties
Prime Properties - Lake Arrowhead, CA
Experience Your Own Transformation!

I'm not watching those shoes. I do my own flips.

Jun 11, 2018 10:40 PM
Rainmaker
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I do not watch those shows...

Jun 11, 2018 07:57 PM
Rainmaker
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

our President would eliminate the EPA completely if he could....

Jun 11, 2018 01:12 PM
Rainmaker
514,174
Dan Tabit
Keller Williams Bellevue - Sammamish, WA

Wow, real life interrupts reality TV.

Jun 11, 2018 10:52 AM