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Rainmaker
2,230,207
Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Jul 05, 2017 03:11 PM
Ambassador
5,488,359
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Nowhere near - and they're not even consistently 'too high' or 'too low' - they're just inevitably WRONG!

How I explain it is with the actual data - it's hard to argue when the FACTS are right before your eyes!

Jul 05, 2017 02:35 PM
Rainmaker
5,774,100
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

How could they do that?  They don't understand the street, the neighborhood, and have not seen the interior of the home!  It take a smart agent to come up with the right number.  A

Jul 05, 2017 02:10 PM
Ambassador
3,430,532
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

In most cases ... not even close.  Not even in the ball park.  

Jul 05, 2017 01:48 PM
Rainmaker
760,267
Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

Zillow is so inaccurate. It works on a radius search and does not take into consideration specific neighborhoods nor unique things about the actual property. 

Jul 05, 2017 01:17 PM
Rainmaker
1,101,219
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

No. Zillow has never been to or inside the home. BTW, Z's wild guesstimate of my home is not only 20K off, it also insists that I have a pool. I have never had a pool.

Jul 05, 2017 12:58 PM
Rainmaker
5,584,639
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

Never..... Z makes a listing agent's job much more difficult than it needs to be.....

Jul 05, 2017 12:49 PM
Rainmaker
5,313,834
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

No... and you had better be prepared to discuss real values with both buyers and sellers up-front and justify your numbers.

Jul 05, 2017 12:42 PM
Ambassador
2,708,363
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  Only in a cookie-cutter subdivision with a lot of recent sales.

 Even then, it's a crap shoot.  

Jul 05, 2017 03:25 PM
Rainer
65,428
Steve Bracero
Heisler and Mattson - Shrewsbury, MA
First Time Homebuyer and Investor Specialist

Typically not that close... 

Jul 05, 2017 03:03 PM
Ambassador
5,167,966
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Not event close except on very rare occasions. Buyers and sellers will make many wrong decisions by relying on Zillow. This is an opportunity to explain how market value really is determined.

Jul 05, 2017 02:33 PM
Ambassador
2,121,611
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home again, home again...

Zillow's Zestimate is getting better every year.  Given a few more years, they might be good enough to be considered "bad".

Jul 05, 2017 04:11 PM
Rainer
509,499
Susie Kay
Ultra Real Estate Dallas Fort Worth - Plano, TX
North Dallas Specialist

Texas is a non disclosure state so it's almost always off.  

Jul 05, 2017 04:03 PM
Rainmaker
922,444
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

No, they are notoriously "off".

Jul 05, 2017 03:43 PM
Rainmaker
1,713,581
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

No AVM reflects that including Zillow.

Jul 05, 2017 02:39 PM
Rainmaker
8,153,136
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Definitely no.

Jul 05, 2017 01:29 PM
Rainer
216,960
Sharon Altier
Coldwell Banker Realty - Elmhurst, IL
Luxury Property Specialist, CSC, SFR

No

Jul 05, 2017 01:26 PM
Rainmaker
5,116,842
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

I would like to ask Spencer Rascoff the same question.

Jul 05, 2017 01:00 PM
Ambassador
2,184,809
Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living

I never actually look at it.  

Jul 05, 2017 03:14 PM
Ambassador
6,689,680
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Sometimes they get it right, most of the time their guess is a bit off.

Jul 05, 2017 03:09 PM
Rainmaker
1,466,257
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Dante Lee Nope!!!

Jul 05, 2017 03:07 PM
Rainmaker
1,870,553
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

You're kidding right? You have to be new to this forum.

Jul 06, 2017 04:51 AM
Rainmaker
1,751,937
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

No where near our CMAs and guess what, when I contact Z to bring them into 'The Know', they don't want to hear about it. When the homes sell..YUP; at or close to our CMA number. Z ia a waste of time, effort and not worthy of existence

Jul 06, 2017 04:10 AM
Rainmaker
1,619,811
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® CRS,ABR,PSA,RCS-D, ePRO
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
Serving Coastal San Diego, Veteran's & Seniors

No Zillow and others are typically 5%-38% off, usually over estimated but sometimes too low.

They are not able to possibly offer what a local knowledge appraiser or Realtor can.

Jul 05, 2017 06:00 PM
Rainmaker
809,308
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

They do not, they are most often way off - and it could go either way, too high OR to low. -Kasey

Jul 05, 2017 05:39 PM
Ambassador
3,661,533
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Not at all. Z does not have local information nor knows the local neighborhoods like we do.

Jul 05, 2017 04:21 PM
Rainmaker
1,650,542
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC • Short Sale • Probate

Not accurate at all, that's why it is estimate. It is like comparing apples to bananas. 

Jul 05, 2017 11:49 PM
Rainmaker
4,322,035
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Dante Lee - okay, I do not want to get started....

Jul 05, 2017 10:49 PM
Rainmaker
719,777
Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

Nyet.

Jul 05, 2017 08:24 PM
Rainmaker
662,623
Buzz Mackintosh
Mackintosh REALTORS - Frederick, MD
“Experience, reliable, leadership”

They are either way high, way low and almost never in the ball park. If a home owner is trusting that numer it's as good as sticking your finger in the wind!

Jul 05, 2017 06:34 PM
Rainmaker
3,988,138
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

They are not accurate and I tell sellers and buyers why they are not. Zillow has not seen the homes.

Jul 05, 2017 06:34 PM
Rainer
67,369
Evelyn M Epperson
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Johns Creek, GA
A Tradition Of [Excellence, Trust & Service]

No not at all! 

Jul 05, 2017 05:56 PM
Rainmaker
3,416,372
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

They can be off 10 to 20% on average in my area. Every now and then i get one that is close, but mor ethan not it is off

Jul 05, 2017 05:54 PM
Rainmaker
2,849,062
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

No not accurate but definitely a conversation starter

Jul 05, 2017 04:46 PM
Rainmaker
921,504
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

That is why I invented CIS Score.

It allows the homeowner to do EXACTLY what they really want to do.

With fours years of data, accuracy is within 4% of sold Price for houses between 200 and 800K.

And, yes, I show the owner/buyer/citizen the Guestimate, Tax appraiser and Bank valuation along with CISscore.  But for ONLY ONE of these do they truly understand what created the value.

Jul 05, 2017 01:33 PM
Rainmaker
778,175
Peter Testa
Kiwi Homes - Danbury, CT
PETER TESTA

If there were no variables it would be a fairly accurate source but in real estate there are lots of variables. These are not take into account by Zillow since they aren't actually seeing the properties that they are valuing. It's hard to estimate something you haven't seen, just my two cents. 

Jul 06, 2017 09:56 AM
Ambassador
2,324,771
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

You'll get a big belly laugh out of this group with that question!  

Jul 06, 2017 06:54 AM
Rainmaker
933,268
Jeff Pearl
Samson Properties / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

I've seen cases where zillow is fairly close, and other times they can be 15% or more off. But the same applies to our county tax assessments. The market changes faster than public records get updated, so a current market analysis is still needed.

Jul 06, 2017 05:07 AM
Rainmaker
3,074,389
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

Nina Hollander nailed this one!

Jul 06, 2017 04:28 AM
Rainmaker
1,262,452
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

 Show them this research article. Z CEO missed his own home on estimates big time two times. He was least embarrased.

Guesstimate can mess up one's life and wife...

Jul 05, 2017 07:24 PM
Rainmaker
3,986,473
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Not even close and I don't use NON_professional sites to do any kind of comparisons.

If I am going to look professional I need to portray professional and that means giving the most accurate info possible.  If you are dealing with non-professional sites with bad info you look just as bad.

Jul 05, 2017 07:22 PM
Rainmaker
250,553
Denise Copeland
Home Sales Palm Beach - Jupiter, FL
Jupiter Abacoa Sales & Beach Front Luxury Homes

There's a level of accuracy rating on Zillow 1-5 stars. Even though our Zillow area is rated highly, I think the prices are still over valued. I hate to list high. But when they insist, I tell them I'll take the listing if they agree to drop the price after 2 weeks based upon less than 10 showings or no offers on the property. I educate them and tell them, a property priced home will have at least a dozen showings the first week and will receive an offer before the end of the 2nd week. Otherwise they must drop the price into the suggest range of my comp analysis.

Aug 04, 2017 08:29 AM
Rainmaker
717,473
Sharon & Bruce Walter
Keller Williams Realty Lafayette, IN - Lafayette, IN
West Lafayette homes for sale

Absolutely not!

Jul 09, 2017 08:42 PM
Rainmaker
634,582
Kathleen Luiten
Resort and Second-Home Specialist - Princeville, HI
Kauai Luxury Ocean Home Sales

No.

Jul 09, 2017 01:08 AM
Rainmaker
6,006,114
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I never look at Zillows information, and when my clients refer to them, I show them the real data to reflect market value.

Jul 08, 2017 07:31 AM
Rainmaker
4,434,227
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

no

Jul 08, 2017 05:21 AM
Rainmaker
5,201,981
Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

No and not a fan of their quessing.

Jul 07, 2017 03:48 PM
Rainmaker
1,538,744
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Zillow states they're off by 8% at best.  I've seen them off conserably more, since condition is not something they can factor in.

Jul 06, 2017 04:52 PM
Rainmaker
1,009,528
Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

LMAO LOL LOL - oh wait, you're serious?

Jul 06, 2017 04:43 PM
Rainmaker
5,484,994
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Accurate and Zillow in the same sentence makes no sense!

Jul 06, 2017 06:04 AM
Rainmaker
1,618,024
Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

no

Jul 06, 2017 05:31 AM