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John Meussner, #MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852 (Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI)

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Rainmaker
4,572,364
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi John -- congratulations, I think you have asked a question that's never been asked previously.   

Alex, I'll take Obscure Questions for $1000 please.

Dec 27, 2016 11:20 PM
Rainmaker
400,356
Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
Movoto - Laguna Niguel, CA

No one would care about your fingerprints if they weren't getting paid to fingerprint you. 

Dec 27, 2016 06:02 PM
Rainmaker
539,468
Jerry Lucas
ABC Legal Docs LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Notary Training, Consulting. Colorado Springs, CO

I take a thumbprint of my customers in my notary journal for fraud protection. It is recommended by our Secretary of State and I recommend it to my notary training students.

Fingerprints don't normally change except for deep burns, cuts, chemical damage (cleaning people), some chemotherapy, or constant abrasion. Some occupations may wear out fingerprints, such as bricklayers, tile layers, piano players, typists, transcriptionists.

Abrasion damage often repairs itself over time when the cause is removed.

Some people are born with a genetic disorder.

Skin becomes less elastic as we age, so senior citizens do not have as pronounced ridges and are more difficult to fingerprint.

Once you type your way to one trillion points on ActiveRain, your fingerprints may be worn off. 

Dec 27, 2016 06:00 PM
Rainmaker
1,543,823
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

Once per year I'm required by Q to meet with M and have them altered to retain my 007 status: licensed to chill  in America's Finest City!

Dec 27, 2016 07:34 PM
Rainmaker
4,883,242
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

We only fingerprint once; however, we must have a background check every 2 years.

Dec 28, 2016 05:13 AM
Rainmaker
5,104,931
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Is this a trick question? I thought your fingerprints were forever unless you "wiped" them with acid.

When I was a corporate officer of a Fortune 500 grocery retailing chain, I was regularly fingerprinted as the company's treasurer.... each time we had to get a new license to sell liquor in our stores. 

Dec 28, 2016 04:19 AM
Rainmaker
1,090,922
Diana Zaccaro Broker Associate
ZOOM Realty Group - Cocoa Beach, FL
"The Accidental Blogger" Cocoa Beach, Florida

It's partly to generate another income stream and partly CYA background check. I have been fingerprinted probably 1/2 dozen times, some done the old fashioned way on paper and then done a second time using the digital method. It's required for many licenses here and a surprising number of volunteer positions also.

 

Dec 27, 2016 08:14 PM
Rainmaker
821,135
Eileen Burns 954.483.3912
Trans State Commercial Realty Inc. - Fort Lauderdale, FL
FLorida Real Estate Connector

Never changes. .source of revenue. ..theft identity

Dec 27, 2016 07:03 PM
Rainmaker
989,652
Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

Um, AFAIK never - it's probably another case of one dept not talking to another - probably an Obama thing

Dec 28, 2016 05:33 AM
Rainer
225,526
Bob Betel
Allstar Home Mortgage, Inc. - Sweetwater, TN
President, Allstar Home Mortgage, Inc

I asked the State of Illinois why I needed to get fingerprinted again. The told me "We threw the last ones out. We don't keep them" I could't believe my ears!!! My fingerprints are private and I don't expect the state to treat them this carelessly. Total Irresponsible!

Dec 28, 2016 04:03 AM
Rainmaker
2,817,671
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

I wonder if it impacts your credit, LOL.

Dec 27, 2016 10:57 PM
Rainmaker
290,969
Allie Angeloni
Long Realty - Oro Valley, AZ

I can't imagine one's fingerprints changing either, John Meussner, unless if someone had a serious 4th degree burn, which would damage the skin, for example.  Are you having to go through more than one Background Check for each state, that would also require more than one set of fingerprints, on a yearly basis?  I have not heard of this, so I will read replies below!   

Dec 27, 2016 09:09 PM
Rainmaker
711,852
Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

I was fingerprinted once - at the time I completed my real estate course.  I have never been asked to do it again.

Dec 27, 2016 08:35 PM
Rainmaker
911,338
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Not as much as they use to when I was a full time bricklayer. I assume they just want to protect themselves by saying they did background checks. After that, i doubt anyone cares about your fingerprints.

Dec 27, 2016 07:50 PM
Ambassador
5,230,119
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Never unless you have trauma to the fingertips - sometimes even with those defects, analysts can get a match.  No need to have 10 done - that's a bit ridiculous, Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA!  They need to have a single (main) database!  

 

Dec 27, 2016 07:06 PM
Rainmaker
1,712,676
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Strange question.

Dec 27, 2016 06:39 PM
Ambassador
1,452,969
Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

I've never been fingerprinted ever and hope I never will!

Dec 27, 2016 06:37 PM
Ambassador
5,049,477
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I can't see what that's necessary but there is probably some rule somewhere about updating. Just be sure you send the right fingerprints! LOL

Dec 27, 2016 05:52 PM
Rainmaker
1,052,211
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

I have been fingerprinted 2x. Salesperson's license. Broker's license. Period.

10x/year? That's superweird!

Dec 27, 2016 05:36 PM
Rainmaker
3,986,258
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

NEVER...unless you damage the surface of the finger

Dec 27, 2016 05:35 PM
Rainmaker
4,800,082
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Sounds like overkill to me.

Dec 27, 2016 05:04 PM
Rainmaker
687,136
Hella Mitschke Rothwell
(831) 626-4000 - Honolulu, HI
Hawaii & California Real Estate Broker

They never change. I think it's not so much having them taken, but what you've been up to and traced back to your fingerprints.

Dec 27, 2016 04:57 PM
Rainmaker
2,220,654
Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Not sure...

Dec 28, 2016 01:20 PM
Rainmaker
5,772,575
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

John,

I don't think they change, unless you dip your hands in hydrocloric acid!  I think Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA has a valid point...$$$A

Dec 28, 2016 11:21 AM
Ambassador
3,727,873
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@Properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

I'm not a fan of fingerprinting and only remember giving mine up once to the airline I used to work for - and that was with a huge argument about it.

Dec 28, 2016 10:53 AM
Rainmaker
921,504
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Twice.

1st when applying to be foster parents.

2nd when applying for my license.

They wanted my fingerprints when I considered helping the local school, and I walked away satisfied they did not really want what I was willing to provide..

Dec 28, 2016 10:08 AM
Rainmaker
4,936,716
Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Wow, that is weird that they all want your finger prints.

 

Dec 28, 2016 09:17 AM
Rainmaker
5,583,278
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

I've never been fingerprinted.... hmmmm.... 

Dec 28, 2016 08:56 AM
Rainmaker
4,434,127
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I had no idea thy require fingerpints.

Dec 28, 2016 07:05 AM
Rainmaker
5,216,509
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

It's a source of liveliehood for some. Surprisingly, only the FBI keeps them on file forever!

Dec 28, 2016 07:01 AM
Rainmaker
1,725,996
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

This depends on how many banks I rob in a day

Dec 28, 2016 06:59 AM
Rainmaker
1,617,916
Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

mine have not changed

Dec 28, 2016 06:55 AM
Rainmaker
7,836,419
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Dec 28, 2016 06:49 AM
Rainmaker
1,466,207
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

John Meussner They haven't changed. It's easier to fingerprint someone again then to check if they are already on file.

Dec 28, 2016 06:21 AM
Rainmaker
3,416,038
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

I guess lucky NH does not require that mess

Dec 28, 2016 05:39 AM
Rainmaker
1,844,301
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Good point. Seems like duplicate info required along with duplicate charges. I'm sure they just want your money not your prints.

Did you hear about the little girl that ordered a bunch of Christmas gifts on Amazon using her mothers fingerprint while she was napping? Mom had a fingerprint security code & kid just moved her finger while she slept.

Dec 28, 2016 05:34 AM
Ambassador
2,436,210
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I didn't think fingerprints ever changed but as I see from some of the other answers, there are times when they could alter.

I've been finger printed a few times as well, and I wondered why they just didn't look up the finger prints I already had on record "somewhere". The first time was for my TWIC card or merchant marine license. I don't remember which required it. But those should be on file on some national database and usable for other government requirements, i.e., licenses, etc.

Dec 28, 2016 04:04 AM
Rainmaker
3,071,489
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Never?

Dec 28, 2016 02:24 AM
Rainmaker
815,253
Paul Antonelli
Antonelli Realty - Saint Cloud, FL
Broker Owner; Antonelli Realty

I dont think they ever change

Dec 28, 2016 01:37 AM
Rainmaker
4,272,548
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

My state says every 6 years...

Dec 27, 2016 11:26 PM
Rainmaker
1,622,432
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

lol, that is the most vicious scam and useless but profitable money making business. 

Dec 27, 2016 11:15 PM
Ambassador
6,393,609
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Never,

And to weed out, or attempt to weed out the bad apples in the industry.

Dec 27, 2016 07:25 PM
Rainmaker
2,781,173
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

It is the only system that we have where we all can agree

Dec 27, 2016 05:37 PM
Rainmaker
900,128
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

In some professions, they actually do change or vanish entirely. 10 times a year is excessive!

Dec 28, 2016 07:01 PM
Ambassador
2,684,109
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     That's crazy!

Dec 28, 2016 05:09 PM
Rainmaker
1,502,998
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Most places don't store the fingerprints after a few years (or at all) so they need them again to run a background.  My biggest question is, with all the criminal idiocy I see people doing and getting away with, what good do the checks actually do?

Dec 28, 2016 04:13 PM