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Derek Rogers, SEO Services, PPC, Social Media Marketing (Arneeon Media)

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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Play now - pay later.  Agree on a price up front - and only be obligated to pay that amount after a certain period of time IF the SEO does what it states it will do.

Oct 28, 2016 10:53 PM
Rainmaker
1,552,082
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

Trackable-ROI!!!

Localism: everything and anything that puts a spotlight on me as the neighborhood expert: photos, links, articles, keywords, event postings, etc.

Skin in the game: month to month, no long term contracts. You need to prove yourself along the way. I'm sick of desk-jockeys making their $ on my hard work and I'm left with mediocre, results if any.

Oct 28, 2016 11:49 PM
Rainmaker
1,846,551
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

There's no SEO contract around here.

We just have a few good questions now & again. How about which is better - the short URL or the long when sharing posts?

Oct 28, 2016 10:00 PM
Rainmaker
5,110,554
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Not sure what you mean by an SEO project. I don't have SEO contracts... overly expensive.

Oct 28, 2016 08:41 PM
Rainmaker
4,319,773
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Derek Rogers , Wow! Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor, CRS just nailed it!

Oct 29, 2016 03:13 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

I am with Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI NMLS#1483386 on this. 

Oct 29, 2016 01:27 AM
Rainmaker
4,800,132
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I am very skeptical of any pre-packaged SEO products.

Oct 28, 2016 11:55 PM
Rainmaker
1,727,856
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

You would have to provide actual success stories with client agents who can step forward to prove the claims of success. Too many here have been burned by SEO Specialists, hence the reason for AR success and organic SEO.

Oct 28, 2016 10:40 PM
Rainer
117,040
Althea Kippes, Esq.
A.T. Kippes, Real Estate Broker - San Francisco, CA
Serving San Francisco to Silicon Valley!

Derek Rogers I agree with Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers 

Your comparison of buying a home with paying for a product that claims to increase my business are two different things.

I have been burned in the past, as have many other agents here on AR, by purchasing products that promised to increase my business.  

I am also a beta tester of another company's product that does what you say your product will do.   That company's product is a waste of money.

If your product is as good as say it is, then here is what I want to see:

- Being able to try it for free and see if it works.  

- Upfront fees and easy cancellation.

- Referrals from real agents in my area who can document what transactions they closed as a result of using your product. 

Oct 29, 2016 06:32 PM
Rainmaker
1,157,791
FN LN
Toronto, ON

What is an SEO project?

Oct 29, 2016 05:02 PM
Rainmaker
991,052
Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

FREE!

Oct 29, 2016 12:40 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

A results guarantee would be nice, and not just a clicks guarantee, but a viable contacts guarantee.

Oct 29, 2016 12:06 PM
Rainmaker
1,241,504
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Needing list of customer references.

We can get it SEO help from the US or elsewhere. They show us the backlinks created and # of increasing clicks if we are happy we sign a monthly contract.  We have people developed our sites and know the going rate.  Like employment it is always month to month after we see it makes a difference.  You need to work from existing website not trying to create a new website for us. It needs to be mobile able.

FYI: We realtors get at least several solicitation calls a week promising putting us on first page of search or our money back... That is whom you are competing with. 

Oct 29, 2016 08:05 AM
Rainmaker
5,772,575
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Derek,

I wish you all the best with your project.  A

Oct 29, 2016 06:45 AM
Rainmaker
1,505,503
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Derek,

The question is a little vague for me, but here are my thoughts:

  1. You really need two distinct packages/programs.  One for the new agent (get them listed on the directories, etc. and a basic strategy session) and one for established agents.
  2. Programs should have basic and optional components.  For example, not everyone needs or wants international attention.
  3. Checklists are good for those, like me, that want to do it themselves.  That might be a third option, a consulting program.  Go in, see what they have, do a gap analysis against industry standards and produce a report with actionable items and then put in a quote for fixing the items (listed by group (directory listings, etc.) and with a price breakdown for if they want 1, 2, 3 or the whole report fixed).
  4. Content suggestions and templates/examples.  Maybe people to write the content for them as an addon service.

 

As to contracts, the way I see it you have a few options.  Month-to-month, short term (2-4 months) or task specific (repair items from the gap analysis) or long term (6-12 months).

 

You definitely need some way to justify your costs.  Some form of "this is where you started, here you are now, here is the change in traffic/leads/etc."

Oct 29, 2016 05:57 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

So many SEO promises out there, most agents are pretty skeptical.  I'd say set the price upfront to be paid after SEO results have been achieved.   

Oct 29, 2016 02:48 AM
Rainmaker
823,679
Susan Laxson CRS
Palm Properties - La Quinta, CA
Realtor in San Diego, CA & Naples, FL

Proven results and price upfront. Too many times there are promises made and not delivered. I would need to hear recommendations from other agents and "see" the results.

Oct 29, 2016 02:03 AM
Rainmaker
1,617,916
Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

Set the price upfront and deliver results

Oct 29, 2016 01:48 AM
Rainmaker
2,463,640
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Verifiable ROI would be at the top of my list. Ultimately better placement in the SERPs would be appreciated. I am not involved in any SEO contracts at this time.

Oct 29, 2016 12:15 AM
Rainmaker
4,434,177
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

others have given good tips.

Oct 28, 2016 11:34 PM
Rainmaker
5,235,760
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Not a techie, here for the information! Keep it coming!

Oct 28, 2016 11:26 PM
Rainmaker
7,860,241
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Blog about your recommendations.

Oct 28, 2016 11:03 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Guess I would like to hear from other Realtors who have invested in a project such as you are describing and can clearly outline the benefits they have received vs. the money they have spent AND can say it was worth it. Everyone offering SEO seems to say they can get you on page one, or they can improve your traffic. So what?! I want to see some facts and figures!

Oct 29, 2016 02:09 PM
Rainmaker
5,583,328
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

reputation trumps all....this site is loaded with SEO experts....most follow someone....many follow Nestor & Katerina Gasset (Katerina).... she's my expert of choice!!! 

Oct 29, 2016 01:27 AM
Rainmaker
2,190,535
Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Most longtime users on this site believe in evergreen/organic SEO

Oct 28, 2016 08:25 PM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Derek, I don't know what I don't know about SEO, so whatever you do just write lots of posts about it.

Oct 28, 2016 01:53 PM