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Bob Crane,  Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671 (Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified)

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7,860,241
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Posting incorrect market data on the internet is not a good way to create friendship in the industry. That said, many of us have learned to take these situations in stride.

 

Aug 25, 2015 06:25 AM
Rainmaker
400,356
Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
Movoto - Laguna Niguel, CA

Inaccurate information abounds!  Listings live forever!

I had a listing that was for sale or for lease.  The listing sold, I canceled the lease listing on the MLS as well as numerous times on Zillow and Trulia due to the constant inquiries.

The buyer happened to work for Zillow and she wrote me an angry email stating that her home was not for rent.  She couldn't wait the two minutes for me to respond, so she called me.  

She said I wasn't canceling the listing the correct way on Zillow and "as  courtesy", she'd do it for me even though I wasn't a paying customer.  Crazy talk!

I received more inquiries after the homeowner/Zillow employee did her magic.  I was tempted to ask her about it but decided silence was the best choice in this case. 

Aug 25, 2015 06:50 AM
Rainmaker
1,771,867
Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

Roy Kelley hit the nail on the head. Their home estimates stink. Constant calls from excited prospective home buyers asking to see a home & hearing that it is already sold, many years old or just plain inaccurate date. 

Aug 25, 2015 06:48 AM
Rainmaker
5,772,575
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Bob,

I think that the community is mad that they got talked into by their MLS or whoever it was that Zillow was going to be a  huge marketing aid...That is the basic hurt...Now the info is wrong, and they don't correct, and they are selling an agent's listing to appear by the name of those who have not listed the property, thereby insinuating that they have the listing.  Some of our clients buy their listing back by paying Zillow, so that their picture appears by their lisiting...and everything else that is said by different members on AR.  A

Aug 25, 2015 07:13 AM
Rainmaker
443,220
Cindy Davis
SD Home Source Realty - San Diego, CA

The Zillow/Trulia model takes the listings that Realtors earn, advetises those listings, then charges Realtors for access to those leads. It's manipulative and has stolen real estate listings from the Realtors themselves.

Aug 25, 2015 07:24 AM
Rainer
274,109
Curtis Evans
Cabin Realty LLC/ USA, Licensed in Louisiana - Golden Meadow, LA

William Feela sums it up very well, a year after my daugter moved into her house, people were still driving by and walking in the yard thinking it was still for sale per Zillow. We finally got them to remove it. I don't trust them. Their Zestimates are so far off it is not even funny. 

Aug 25, 2015 06:31 AM
Rainmaker
1,846,551
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

You're kidding right? Did you miss the last 10 years of it's existance? I could tell you some great stories but if you prefer to be niave .......

Aug 25, 2015 06:20 AM
Rainmaker
3,986,308
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I had a client that was upset when he saw wrong information about his home when zillow took it and put wrong info about it.  I could not convince the seller that it was out of.my control and lost the listing.      The wrong info has ruined many a deal and zillow.admits that their info is off by 8-25+%...and that comes right from the CEO

Aug 25, 2015 06:08 AM
Rainmaker
2,224,473
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

Hi, Bob...You have been reading our Zillow posts, right? I don't like the inaccurate data and having to explain to buyers why that house they want to see isn't available and in one case that the picture wasn't even the house that was for sale. Then Zillow turns around and takes our information and trys to sell it back to us. They should be paying us for our information. 

Aug 25, 2015 08:27 AM
Rainmaker
1,727,856
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Roy Kelley got it right. Zillow was an interloper that with their faulty data cost me several sales in the the past.

Aug 25, 2015 07:47 AM
Rainmaker
1,569,979
Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

If it iis because they use or listing data, then try to sell us a subscription to get leads, using our work product. yes, I am pissed off.  If it is because so many people rely on their Zestimate, which is more often highly inaccurate, theby causing us more grief and anguish and homework?  Yes, that pisses me off.  I will admit, they have come on strong.  I remember a few years back the CA Assoc. of Realtors was debating giving some something like $2-3M to develop/advance out website, and someone said that Zillow had just rec'd another $20M in a round of venture capital money.

Aug 25, 2015 02:38 PM
Rainmaker
2,443,250
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

Because they really are not the most knowledgeable about real estate and mislead people by claiming to be.

Aug 25, 2015 11:38 AM
Rainmaker
1,663,836
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Bob, Bob, Bob.......

Aug 25, 2015 10:14 AM
Rainmaker
212,755
Stefan Winter
Real Estate in IL & NV | Owner of Real Estate Web Tech | Daily Vlogger - Las Vegas, NV
Owner - Winter Group & Real Estate Web Tech

It started with the zestimate making my life harder at listings due to their inaccurate price. Once I gave in and used their buy a zip code to get leads stuff for a year it was that they pretty much are bad as a business and service in general. Last time I ever bought leads, lesson learned.

Aug 25, 2015 09:53 AM
Rainmaker
1,432,649
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Bad market data.  And we feel they are a threat to our business model.  

Aug 30, 2015 12:36 AM
Rainer
431,083
Chris Lima
Turtle Reef Realty - Port St Lucie, FL
Local or Global-Allow me to open doors for you.

Personally, it's the debriefing that I have to do regarding inaccurate pricing and inaccurate listing status.  I once had a seller that wanted to buy at zillow's zestimate but wanted to sell by mine. 

The worst part is sending listings to buyers and then they take to Zillow.  They return to me with none of the properties that I sent from the mls that are active and available, but an extensive list of their "already sold or under contract dream homes".

Aug 25, 2015 09:59 PM
Rainmaker
5,110,554
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I think part of this has to do with the fact that many agents are afraid Zillow will eliminate the need for their services.

Aug 25, 2015 09:15 PM
Rainmaker
2,538,633
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Bob. It is a numbers game for them, they must feel they are immune to the bad press.

Aug 25, 2015 07:19 PM
Rainmaker
887,942
Debra Leisek
Bay Realty,Inc Homer Alaska - Homer, AK

Bad enough their information is wrong, their zestimates completely fictional and their data erroneous... but they wont change it when pointed out that it is wrong. They harm the Sellers and therefore the buyers and we are the ones left trying to explain it and being blamed for it...

Aug 25, 2015 05:17 PM
Rainmaker
1,321,484
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Hate? No! I love it when I get a call from someone who is inquiring about an inaccurate Zillow posting and I can point out the error and also point out that they should be dealing with a real estate professional and not an advertising company if they want the correct information.

Aug 25, 2015 03:11 PM
Rainmaker
1,712,776
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Because they overrate it when they shouldn't and on other things they underrate it when they shouldn't.

Aug 25, 2015 09:25 AM
Rainmaker
699,277
Chris and Dick Dovorany
Homes for Sale in Naples, Bonita Springs and Estero, Florida - Naples, FL
Broker/Associate at Premiere Plus Realty

We have to take out our frustrations on someone or something and Zillow is perfect.

Aug 25, 2015 08:38 AM
Rainmaker
979,596
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Bob - Inaccurate data, and unwillingness to edit when you contact them with the correct info. They are hard to reach and communicate with. You have to pay if you want to market your own listing on the site. Plus many other reasons.

Aug 25, 2015 08:30 AM
Rainmaker
3,416,038
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Most often wrong information, a lack of a real person to reach for help and most often endless sales calls looking for me to buy worthless zip codes. 

Aug 25, 2015 07:55 AM
Rainmaker
784,786
The Woodland Team of Texas
The Woodland Companies - Austin, TX
Land Specialists

A tough competitor, impossible to win against.

Nov 30, 2018 03:01 AM
Rainmaker
632,475
Buzz Mackintosh
Mackintosh REALTORS - Frederick, MD
“Experience, reliable, leadership”

The zestimates are way off base. I had an offer from an internet company based agent, who provided no comps to her melinial buyers on an AG zoned property, They made an $80K below list low ball offer based on a zestimate. To say the least , once I calmed my seller down and gave an education on AG zoned properties to the Buyers agent we were able to come to an agreement. Thanks Zillow :( !

Aug 30, 2015 08:51 AM
Ambassador
602,192
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker

Oh Good Grief!... I get so tired of hearing people in our industry belly ache and moan about the horrors of Zillow. Seriously, it's time to move on. There are other issues of much greater concern in our business. I absolutely LOVE Zillow! I even wrote a post on how much I LOVE Zillow! Are Zestimates inaccurate? Yes, at times, but what a great seque with my clients to prove my value proposition as the local market expert! Zestimates are simply a starting point in a conversation. Zillow is the most highly visited real estate search platform on the planet. You can't ignore it's popularity among consumers. You can either use it to your advantage, or continue to waste your valuable time and energy complaining. And Puh-leeze.....for the love of Mary, Zillow does NOT charge us for our listings!!! I have never paid Zillow a dime to have my listings show up on their platform!

Aug 26, 2015 04:52 PM
Rainmaker
542,347
Lisa Friedman
Great American Dream Realty - Essex, VT
35 Years of Real Estate Experience!

Because their Zesstimate can say that a $100,000 condo is worth $250,000 when it borders $500,000 homes. And because when you contact customers service about a listing not posting correctly, it can take days for a response and sometimes you may have to contact them three or four times without a response. Or they respond that they will check into it and get back to you then don't.

 

Aug 26, 2015 01:58 PM
Rainmaker
4,319,773
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Bob Crane it's a business model that generates revenue from the people who are responsible for the data which is presented in the way Zillow wants - many times that information is not correct.

 

Aug 26, 2015 01:14 PM
Rainmaker
913,228
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

I think many agents don't know that they need to log into Zillow and update their listing info. Updating it in MLS doesn't automatically update it on zillow or many other sites that listings get syndicated to.

Aug 26, 2015 02:06 AM
Rainmaker
442,156
Shirley Coomer
Keller Williams Realty Sonoran Living - Phoenix, AZ
Realtor, Keller Williams Realty, Phoenix Az

It is hard to explain to the public how Zillow really works. As Agents we are in the houses and see the updates or lack of them as well as the condition that affects the value of a property and use this for the good of our buyers ad sellers.  Some people prefer to believe what they see on the Internet...and think...how can they say it if it isn't true?  Unfortunately Zillow take our listings, posts them, often incorrectly, sells them back to us and confuses our clients.  Just another day in the life of a Realtor!

Aug 26, 2015 12:13 AM
Rainmaker
1,085,062
Ginger Harper
Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage~ Ginger Harper Real Estate Team - Southport, NC
Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County!

Zillow makes a lot of mistakes in posting the listings.  Sometimes they have mine as active when they actually have been sold for over a year.

 

It hurts our reputation.

Aug 25, 2015 11:50 PM
Rainmaker
716,529
Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

I think for starters Bob, they are a competitor for each one of us. They compete for internet eyeballs and for client leads which they don't send to you if you are the listing agent.

And their purpose is not be be in real estate but rather using real estate - your copyrighted material - to generate an income through advertising and lead sales. They are a reseller of proprietary information.

If you now look at what's happening, many MLSs are no longer feeding Zillow. It's more inaccurate today than yesterday. Problem is.... that consumers don't know this.

Aug 25, 2015 11:44 PM
Rainer
171,073
Richard L. Sanderson
Richard L. Sanderson Consulting - Kalama, WA
helping improve local property tax systems

Bob Crane - It's not just real estate agents that get upset at Zillow references. Local appraisers and assessors get calls daily that include statements that begin with "According to Zillow my property (or my neighbor's property) is worth X and I think its right (or wrong)."  Appraisers and assessors constantly have to justify their property value opinions against Zillow estimates. 

Aug 25, 2015 11:24 PM
Rainmaker
472,343
Katina Hargrove 352-551-0308
Stake Your Land Realty, Inc. - Eustis, FL
Broker/Owner, SFR®, e-PRO®, GRI, AHWD, REALTOR®

Good mornig Bob Crame,

I know of many agents who pay Zillow for leads, well, not my money:)

Someone let the monster out a long time ago and has been feeding it

Aug 25, 2015 10:24 PM
Rainer
150,719
Ed Macias
Real Estate Teammates - Miami, FL
Miami FL-REO Property Management Multifamily

Imaccurate info

Aug 25, 2015 10:51 AM
Rainmaker
2,759,812
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

Good Tuesday afternoon Bob. They just have a knack for ticking off the Pope! - LOL

Aug 25, 2015 08:15 AM